Well- I ordered the OAL gauge and tomorrow sometime I'll hit the local GS to see what they have- hopefully the 'Eliminator'...

I ended up getting the Hornady tool and a .308 and .223 case to go with it- on sale at Midway. They've been very good lately; got stiff nylon chamber / bore brushes and mops from them- swabs, etc. Fast and cheap shipping.

I looked at the Sinclair and the Hornady tools. I wonder why they don't make the end of the inner rod a sort of pointed self- tapping dealie- to go into the back of the bullet you're using? Sure you'd ruin that one bullet, but it seems more repeatable than sliding it through the case, locking the inner rod, extracting then dumping the bullet. THEN AGAIN I've never done this so what do I know...

You guys are tops- thanks!

Brian