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fgw_in_fla
04-01-2013, 09:50 PM
You guys shooting the .308 with a 24" barrel, What powder works best for you? Accuracy, not speed or hunting, etc. I have on hand:

IMR 3031
IMR 4895
IMR 4064
IMR4320
IMR4350
RL15
RL19
H380 (which I hate. Reminds me of metering salt)
H4831 (too slow)...

yobuck
04-01-2013, 10:31 PM
4320 with a 168 smk shoots ragged holes in my grandsons 308 savage.
its the heavy model with muzzel brake and alum bedding.

fgw_in_fla
04-01-2013, 10:41 PM
4320 with a 168 smk shoots ragged holes in my grandsons 308 savage.
its the heavy model with muzzel brake and alum bedding.

I was really hoping someone would say that.
I sure do have a lot of it. It's good in my .243, too

kelbro
04-01-2013, 11:18 PM
4064 for me and several different bullets.

Topsail
04-02-2013, 02:00 AM
4064 is my go to powder for accuracy in my M1A and bolt guns. However, my FTR really likes Varget.

JWW123
04-02-2013, 08:41 AM
Frank my 308 likes rl15 42.5g have fun

jhelmuth
04-02-2013, 11:26 AM
Frank,

I'm using RL-15 very successfully in my 30" Heavy Bull CBI. Given the extra 6" (over the 24") I would venture a guess that the 4320 might be a slightly better powder, but I'd probably try both and see what results I get. Ones I would rule out are:

IMR 3031
IMR 4895
RL19
H380
H4831

Jim

jhelmuth
04-02-2013, 11:27 AM
...and the 4064 might be another good one to try as well

rs
04-02-2013, 11:31 AM
Varget and the 165gr SPBT gives me excellent accuracy in my 308 sporter.

jhelmuth
04-02-2013, 11:50 AM
PS... also important to powder selection is bullet weight. When going to a slower powder, you will typically be doing so with heavier bulletos! For RL-15 and 4320, I'd use it only on 165ish grain pills (Sierra Match King 168's come to mind). I think the 40644 might be better for those 150ish grain bullets.....

fgw_in_fla
04-02-2013, 12:05 PM
Thanks to all for your input. I had a feeling the 4064 would get the majority vote.
And it appears the standard rules apply - heavier bullet / slower powder.

Well, it looks like I have a little testing & experimenting to perform. This is always the tough part. Getting out there to shoot. A lot of ammo. All day.
At the range.
In the Florida weather.
During the early spring.

Man.... tough times ahead.
Thanks again, y'all.
Frank in Fla

homefrontsniper
04-02-2013, 02:09 PM
imr xbr8208 imr4064 reloader 15 varget

stomp442
04-02-2013, 02:11 PM
Imr4064 is probably my favorite powder. Works great in my Ruger m77 with 168 bergers. I use it in everything from 223 to 22-250 to 250 savage to 270 and 06.

LHitchcox
04-02-2013, 04:25 PM
I have shot a lot of Varget, 4895, 4064, RL15, and BL-c2. I like Varget best. Too bad none seems to be available.

Willoughby
04-02-2013, 05:15 PM
varget has been most accurate for me
165-180 gr bullets with 42g -44g varget seems be gtg in most 308's
my current 24' fcp barrel likes 42g Varget & 175 smk's .004 off lands
my last 22' Var barrel liked 180 sgk's & 43 g varget -jammed
I can reduce either load by 2 gr when using a mag primer
rather than a large rifle primer
& acheive the same results
more spark- ignition -
less powder
I'm not seeing a down side here

fgw_in_fla
04-02-2013, 05:37 PM
Looks like it's coming down to 2 of my favorites... 4064 & RL15. Good thing that's the powders I used to make all those rounds.

By the way, there's 2 reasons I didn't put Varget on the list:
1) I don't have any.
2) I HATE VARGET.

It always works for everyone but me. Even my young friend Matt had reasonably good success with it, but when I tried it NOOOOoooooo! No such luck.
Are you guys taking the can of Varget & putting it in the backyard under a full moon & dancing naked around it or something?

jhelmuth
04-02-2013, 05:40 PM
Mag primers will generate more burn on initial strike. Unless I am wrong somehow, this always leads to slightlly higher chamber pressure (for a given powder). Whether that is "good" (or not) is entirely objective. Unless you actually measure it, you may be playing with fire (so to speak). Of course, one cannot say for sure that isn't a good thing either (as - again - you can only know if the pressure is actually measured).
Of noted interested is use of Magnum primers in large projectile cartridges when combined with slower powders. I can't comment intelligently on this use, but there is some precendent to it...

jhelmuth
04-02-2013, 05:42 PM
Looks like it's coming down to 2 of my favorites... 4064 & RL15. Good thing that's the powders I used to make all those rounds.

By the way, there's 2 reasons I didn't put Varget on the list:
1) I don't have any.
2) I HATE VARGET.

It always works for everyone but me. Even my young friend Matt had reasonably good success with it, but when I tried it NOOOOoooooo! No such luck.
Are you guys taking the can of Varget & putting it in the backyard under a full moon & dancing naked around it or something?

No... but I do rub the bottle 3x and watch porn while I shake it for 1 hour straight :rolleyes:

fgw_in_fla
04-02-2013, 05:53 PM
No... but I do rub the bottle 3x and watch porn while I shake it for 1 hour straight :rolleyes:

I gotta say...'ol Big Jim doesn't say much but when he does.....

Now that was pretty funny. I wish I hadn't read that while drinking coffee. It's kinda difficult to get it out of the keyboard.

eddiesindian
04-03-2013, 10:45 AM
RL-15