Seems I may have to try some 2 3/4 inch Accutips, as I can't seem to find any 3 inch Accutips. They are out of stock every where. Now I do find the 2 3/4 inch still. Mine also like the 3 inch Federal Barnes Expanders. To me the recoil was no different from the 2 3/4 inch copper premium to the 3 inch Accutips. Still a lot less than a 2 3/4 inch 12 gauge.