I have bought a lot of Leupold Veri-X-lll in both 4.5X14 and 6.5X20 with A.O. Between $400.00-$500.00 the way to bid is figure out how much the most you are will to pay then wait until the last 20 seconds then place your bid. You will be surprised how many you win and for less than you wanted to pay. I have bought over 25 in the pasted 2 years and some I got the deal of the year. In my opinion the Veri-X-models are far better than the newer VX models(the glass is better in the Veri-X's). The reason for this is the VX models their glass was made in China and on the Veri-X models was made else where.