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    I think what Fuj did was use the copper wire (formed in a hook so it stayed on the blade) to measure the actual weight it took to keep the blade depressed.

    No way I'm buying the blade has an 8.5 - 10.5oz "pull" before touching the actual trigger. I have a target accutrigger on my 10fp that's set to a 10 pull average of 8.5ozs and I can assure you the blade is fully depressed before my finger ever touches the trigger. The varmint accutrigger on my 12FV with a 10 pull average breaking clean at 1.5lbs and I haven't touched that since it came out of the box.

    Edit to add:

    Decided to provide real data, these are "blade only" averages from both two rifles:

    Target accutrigger - 4.2oz
    Varmint accutrigger - 5.5oz

    Don't have a standard accutrigger to test. Based on my results, it could be Fuj was referring to blade weight rather than blade pull. He'll have to elaborate.
    Last edited by PhilC; 01-14-2020 at 12:45 PM. Reason: Add info

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilC View Post
    I think what Fuj did was use the copper wire (formed in a hook so it stayed on the blade) to measure the actual weight it took to keep the blade depressed.

    No way I'm buying the blade has an 8.5 - 10.5oz "pull" before touching the actual trigger. I have a target accutrigger on my 10fp that's set to a 10 pull average of 8.5ozs and I can assure you the blade is fully depressed before my finger ever touches the trigger. The varmint accutrigger on my 12FV with a 10 pull average breaking clean at 1.5lbs and I haven't touched that since it came out of the box.

    Edit to add:

    Decided to provide real data, these are "blade only" averages from both two rifles:

    Target accutrigger - 4.2oz
    Varmint accutrigger - 5.5oz

    Don't have a standard accutrigger to test. Based on my results, it could be Fuj was referring to blade weight rather than blade pull. He'll have to elaborate.
    Then WHY are you offering your un wanted $ 0.02 when this thread DID NOT ask about target or varmint triggers. ??

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    I should have posted a pic.....LOL But yeah. It only
    takes 1/6 of an ounce to fully collapse "MY" blade.
    And why I mentioned in an earlier post; I hardly notice
    it during the initial pull......I do love my 2 stage triggers
    on my RRA's. I may just add more spring to my blade
    and see if I like it better !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuj' View Post
    I should have posted a pic.....LOL But yeah. It only
    takes 1/6 of an ounce to fully collapse "MY" blade.
    And why I mentioned in an earlier post; I hardly notice
    it during the initial pull......I do love my 2 stage triggers
    on my RRA's. I may just add more spring to my blade
    and see if I like it better !!
    You and me both Fuj! I am very fond of 2-Stage triggers. I played with different springs until I found what felt perfect to my finger. My Accutrigger now feels good as ANY aftermarket trigger I have tried. And considering it cost me a couple bucks of springs and set screws, plus a little of my time preparing the surfaces, it has been BY FAR a better option.

    I just think that there is a point of “diminishing returns” with triggers. People think “light pull” when it comes to triggers. And they like that little doohickey trigger-mabobber to tell them it’s good. I don’t even use one of those things. I let my finger be the judge. I’ve been doing triggers on rifles & pistols for over 20 years. I know what feels right to me. Pull weight alone does not a good trigger make. I’ve set up 1911s with around 4lb weight, smooth as silk with no noticeable creep or overtravel, next to one with 3lb creep, grit & overtravel all to hell! And the heavier one I set up FELT LIGHTER!

    Style of trigger is a preference. Some like 2-stage, some like standard. And others still prefer set triggers(which I detest!). My point is trust what feels good to your index finger’s mind! Not what a trigger doohickey is TELLING you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    You and me both Fuj! I am very fond of 2-Stage triggers. I played with different springs until I found what felt perfect to my finger. My Accutrigger now feels good as ANY aftermarket trigger I have tried. And considering it cost me a couple bucks of springs and set screws, plus a little of my time preparing the surfaces, it has been BY FAR a better option.

    I just think that there is a point of “diminishing returns” with triggers. People think “light pull” when it comes to triggers. And they like that little doohickey trigger-mabobber to tell them it’s good. I don’t even use one of those things. I let my finger be the judge. I’ve been doing triggers on rifles & pistols for over 20 years. I know what feels right to me. Pull weight alone does not a good trigger make. I’ve set up 1911s with around 4lb weight, smooth as silk with no noticeable creep or overtravel, next to one with 3lb creep, grit & overtravel all to hell! And the heavier one I set up FELT LIGHTER!

    Style of trigger is a preference. Some like 2-stage, some like standard. And others still prefer set triggers(which I detest!). My point is trust what feels good to your index finger’s mind! Not what a trigger doohickey is TELLING you!
    Best post award! I agree


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    You and me both Fuj! I am very fond of 2-Stage triggers. I played with different springs until I found what felt perfect to my finger. My Accutrigger now feels good as ANY aftermarket trigger I have tried. And considering it cost me a couple bucks of springs and set screws, plus a little of my time preparing the surfaces, it has been BY FAR a better option.

    I just think that there is a point of “diminishing returns” with triggers. People think “light pull” when it comes to triggers. And they like that little doohickey trigger-mabobber to tell them it’s good. I don’t even use one of those things. I let my finger be the judge. I’ve been doing triggers on rifles & pistols for over 20 years. I know what feels right to me. Pull weight alone does not a good trigger make. I’ve set up 1911s with around 4lb weight, smooth as silk with no noticeable creep or overtravel, next to one with 3lb creep, grit & overtravel all to hell! And the heavier one I set up FELT LIGHTER!

    Style of trigger is a preference. Some like 2-stage, some like standard. And others still prefer set triggers(which I detest!). My point is trust what feels good to your index finger’s mind! Not what a trigger doohickey is TELLING you!
    What he said !! I have on accu target trigger ready for my
    next build. I have it set for 1.5 lbs. Very clean, on the edge break.
    Feels in the ounce range. Someone took some care doing this one
    at the factory. I'll leave it at 1.5 lbs for initial range work then I'll
    have plenty of room to adjust down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Hoback View Post
    You and me both Fuj! I am very fond of 2-Stage triggers. I played with different springs until I found what felt perfect to my finger. My Accutrigger now feels good as ANY aftermarket trigger I have tried. And considering it cost me a couple bucks of springs and set screws, plus a little of my time preparing the surfaces, it has been BY FAR a better option.

    I just think that there is a point of “diminishing returns” with triggers. People think “light pull” when it comes to triggers. And they like that little doohickey trigger-mabobber to tell them it’s good. I don’t even use one of those things. I let my finger be the judge. I’ve been doing triggers on rifles & pistols for over 20 years. I know what feels right to me. Pull weight alone does not a good trigger make. I’ve set up 1911s with around 4lb weight, smooth as silk with no noticeable creep or overtravel, next to one with 3lb creep, grit & overtravel all to hell! And the heavier one I set up FELT LIGHTER!

    Style of trigger is a preference. Some like 2-stage, some like standard. And others still prefer set triggers(which I detest!). My point is trust what feels good to your index finger’s mind! Not what a trigger doohickey is TELLING you!
    Some truth here. If it doesn't influence my point of aim or impact, it is good.
    The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shooter0302 View Post
    Then WHY are you offering your un wanted $ 0.02 when this thread DID NOT ask about target or varmint triggers. ??
    First let me apologize for how my post came across, I realize now some personal issues I'm dealing with may have been injected without intent.

    My intent was to share, for reference, what the blade only pull weight was on the two I do have. Maybe someone who has a standard version will post similar data. I know trigger pull weights are different on all three versions of the accutrigger but don't know if the same holds true for the blade spring. In retrospect, I'd have worded my response differently.

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    I didn’t read into your post like that at all Phil...it read fine to me??

    I appreciate everyone’s opinion on triggers, and I think it’s been quite an entertaining conversation. But it’s not MY thread.

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