Hey Thorbird, I've had three 25-06's, and a bullet that i've had excellent results from in all of them. Is the Speer 120 gr. btsp with Rl 19. Accuracy was as good or better than with the 115 vld's. And to the best of my memory i was getting about the same velocity as the Bergers out of the Shilen barrel. I'd look it up ,but, i threw away my load data for the Shilen after i sold it.