Quote Originally Posted by ellobo
I am not questioning the effectiveness of those old cartridges or thier historical significance. I just meant to point out that a more modern cartridge is available with better availablility of ammo. If you prefer them by all means get or make one.

El Lobo
neither am i questioning that of the ruger, hell, I even considered chambering for it - which is a great concept for a standard (06) length action. most of the recent new/newish chamberings are solutions for problems that didnt really exist....
Take the 9.3; is as effective as you can get in a larger bore, say 35cal plus, however it never caught on in the USA, been used for generations to down larger deer, antelopes moose, scratchy bitey stuff as well...in other part, I suspect it might be the two letters 'mm'.. ;D