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nathantc
09-08-2021, 09:13 PM
I can imagine if, on any of my rifles, the blade was harder to pull than the trigger itself, I would have problems getting comfortable with it and probably couldn't be consistent.

dry fire with the safety blade removed is so damn nice. I'm sure it will be ok once i get a lighter spring in there.

CFJunkie
09-09-2021, 06:49 AM
It might not be the spring, something, maybe a burr, could be binding up the blade movement, especially of the trigger pull is great without the blade.

Dave Hoback
09-09-2021, 02:08 PM
That’s why I stone them in a jig. Keeps a perfect angle & makes the surface completely flat. I make sure not to go past the case hardening of the metal. I use a completely different new spring with a step turned set screw that acts as an overtravel stop. The problem is spring rate. I played with different springs for a couple years. I know people like making fun...but anyone that feels my trigger is quite surprised. It feels like a very good 2-stage. Feels nicer to my finger than any aftermarket. But, they are a love it or hate it setup. I understand people not liking the safe action design. But I prefer them for the same reason I dislike external thumb safeties on pistols. With a Safe Action trigger the weapon can NOT fire unless the trigger is pulled.

nathantc
09-09-2021, 02:31 PM
With a Safe Action trigger the weapon can NOT fire unless the trigger is pulled.
To bad you aren't closer. might save me a lot of time with making shims, and picking out springs. Also i would love a photo of your overtravel set up. Probably pretty self explanatory.

As for the quote, that is 100% the main reason i shy away from an aftermarket trigger. If the rifle was only going to be a range toy, i would try some triggers. Being as i plan to hunt, with other people, i rather use my booger hook as an absolute safety. Hell i dont even use the actual safety on any firearm i own, except my beretta, i use it for the decocking feature.

nathantc
09-10-2021, 11:11 AM
using a click counter (press button and it keeps count) 200 trigger pulls of trouble free dry fire practice this morning. Swapped trigger with a different one from a project rifle i recently picked up. Seems the smith that worked on that trigger messed up the angle on the trigger that catches the sear. It will never hold like it was. With each trigger pull it was starting to get worse, and got to the point it was trip just sitting there while i was aiming. Now its 100% reliable, just harder than i like. So i'm researching the Jard 100% drop in trigger that replaces sear and all. Re adjusting the scope location, to correct eye relief (i was correcting me, not the rifle), a slight change in cheek rest was also needed with the new adjustable but pad modifaction. And some help from a link shared with me on snipershide, im now holding on target before, during and after the trigger pull better than i have in my life. Now its a matter of unlearning what is basically muscle memory doing things wrong, to make this new way of gripping the rifle feel "natural" to me.

https://www.snipershide.com/precision-rifle/mechanics-of-the-firing-hand/

Here is my practice setup/location for dry fire. For live fire i move the truck and trailer out into the pasture for obvious safety reasons. Its is the most stable thing i have available to me that is over the grass enough to see the target. I lay an old comforter down over the deck when shooting for comfort reasons. Posting these photos to give an idea.


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CFJunkie
09-10-2021, 12:36 PM
Glad you got your trigger problems resolved.

You might see if there is a Precision Target Trigger (red blade) available on this site.
The red blade triggers can be set down to 6 oz., although I would suspect that setting it that light would make the trigger to be sensitive to lateral press on the blade or just hard bolt closures. I didn't see any sensitivity when set at 10 oz.
My Varmint triggers can be set to 1.5 lbs. work great at 2 lbs, but when one had an adjustment screw get loose after about 2,000 rounds, it got down to 1.5 lbs and got too sensitive to lateral pressure and bolt closures. Resetting to 2 lbs and a bit of loc-tite solved the problem and it never happened again even after another 2,500 rounds.

nathantc
09-10-2021, 12:47 PM
got too sensitive to lateral pressure and bolt closures.

that is where the issue lies. Im wanting a pull weight of about 1lb. But i also want it to be realistically safe. I do plan on hunting with this rifle out at longer ranges in the future. That being said, i only close the bolt when im getting ready to fire. I trust the open bolt more than any safety. So far, i've never seen an accutrigger properly function under 2lbs. Not saying its impossible. Also those red bladed trigger sell in the used market for more than they are worth "TO ME". I just worry id be buying someone else's mistake or problem, then be stuck with it. IDK, but this is the trigger im researching. Not much out there on it, from what i see, not many people ditch the accutrigger. I to love it, just not so much for this build. I love the safety it provides, but hate the savage sear design for lightweight reliability.

looking at getting the 7-12 ounce version.
https://jardinc.com/jard-savage-centerfire-trigger-system

Robinhood
09-11-2021, 01:32 AM
I have a suggestion and I subscribe to grens post #69. Set your phone camera up to video you pulling the trigger with live rounds. If you like to yank off a box or more get a creedmoor. A gun like that will kill your timing and form shooting a box of twenty. I also bet that bullet will settle down as it nears 300 plus meters. Save your brass and I might make the 2.5 hour trip over there to visit one day and we can figure something out.

nathantc
09-11-2021, 08:37 AM
I have a suggestion and I subscribe to grens post #69. Set your phone camera up to video you pulling the trigger with live rounds. If you like to yank off a box or more get a creedmoor. A gun like that will kill your timing and form shooting a box of twenty. I also bet that bullet will settle down as it nears 300 plus meters. Save your brass and I might make the 2.5 hour trip over there to visit one day and we can figure something out.

oh i am saving all my brass. Next things ill be buying is reloading equipment and learning to reload on this round. Figure 100 rounds is a good start. Im down to 60 rounds. Sold my 6.5 creedmoor a while back when i could not figure out the feed issues, sadly i now know how easily that could have been solved. So its this, and my 7.62x39 savage axis i was using to better learn and understand MOA as the SWFA 10x on it, and the strike eagle on this, are both in MOA. I stopped shooting he 7.62x39 due to biden and his retardation. Might be rebarreling as i will not pay 308 price for x39. But yes, you would be welcome if you ever wanted to make that trip. At least there would be no range fees lol.

Dave Hoback
09-11-2021, 09:38 AM
I agree with Robin. Take advantage of his offer Nate. A couple hours with Robin & he’ll have your issues sorted.

nathantc
10-25-2021, 06:52 PM
got my issues sorted out. turns out this rifle/chassis set up really likes 50 inch lbs on the action screws. Seems groups open up anywhere above that and anywhere lighter than 30 inch lbs.
Adjustable recoil pad and the MASSIVE new muzzle brake help drastically. With the scope at 25 power, at 100 yards i can watch milk jugs explode in the scope. Never have i been able to see that on anything larger than a .243. Recoil is amazingly managed now. Honestly the recoil isnt much different than my 7.62x39 savage i built. With the exception of a gentle push. It 100% took away the smack on the shoulder i felt before the brake. Recoil is there, just "different" so to speak. Much more pleasurable. Or maybe the 3/4 lb muzzle brake settled the harmonics to agree with this load. Advertised as 350 grams but i swear its a full 1 lb when in my hands. Anyway thanks for all the suggestions and help. Got the rifle dialed in and functioning 100%. Last thing to do is make up my mind on the jard trigger or deal with the heavy accutrigger.
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Dave Hoback
10-26-2021, 02:16 PM
I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the side of that going off. “Holy SHOCKWAVE Batman!”:boom::boom:

Looks good Nate. Glad it’s worked out for you.

nathantc
10-26-2021, 07:01 PM
I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the side of that going off. “Holy SHOCKWAVE Batman!”:boom::boom:

Looks good Nate. Glad it’s worked out for you.

lol yeah my dad was about 6' to the left of me. (ear muffs) and said it felt like someone slapped him in the face lol. Cant leave loose ammo, ball cap, or well, pretty much anything next to me when i fire. That said, this rifle will never see a gun range so that should never matter. Serious recoil reduction and i love it.

Dave Hoback
10-28-2021, 11:06 AM
I do miss that. Living in Arizona...my backyard was damn near my range! Here in SE Pennsylvania I’m screwed! We do have quite a bit of BLM land. And Pa. maintains free outdoor ranges for hunters or those with a range pass($35/year). But I have to travel almost 2 hours just for 300yds. MAX. There are several 1000yd ranges through the state. Again though, they are not close to me. And besides costing a couple hundred to join(can’t just shoot there), each one has it’s own little “Boys Club” & politics to match! Gets old.

nathantc
10-28-2021, 11:25 AM
I do miss that. Living in Arizona...my backyard was damn near my range! Here in SE Pennsylvania I’m screwed! We do have quite a bit of BLM land. And Pa. maintains free outdoor ranges for hunters or those with a range pass($35/year). But I have to travel almost 2 hours just for 300yds. MAX. There are several 1000yd ranges through the state. Again though, they are not close to me. And besides costing a couple hundred to join(can’t just shoot there), each one has it’s own little “Boys Club” & politics to match! Gets old.

I dont do ranges, or group hunts. Its hard enough to fine one person who knows how to properly handle a firearm and understands tactics and safety let a lone a group. I just dont have that much faith in people. Especially not the gear queer mall ninja types i always encounter at gun shops and ranges. I prefer the outdoors and solace