What scope for $1500 to $2000

[Rob01]

When I shoot 10" steel at a 1000 yards it seems I am riding on either side of the steel. It just looks like I need a half of an adjustment at times. The further the distance the "smaller" of adjustment you would want to make.


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Thats the wind. A 1/4 MOA would not move you from one side of that plate to the other. You don't need 1/8 MOA for ELR.

[XL105]

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[XL105]

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[LongRange]

So you think 1.25" is going to get you center and you can adjust for that.... at 1000yds.... and 2.5" isn't going to get you close enough..... man I must have been doing it wrong all this time....


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i tried to tell you LOL!!

[LongRange]

Lol is there an adjustment to eliminate the wind. I understand that the wind is what I am dealing with. Sometimes I'm not dealing with it right. I never owned 1/8" turrets. But when shooting I asked myself wouldn't it be nice to have a smaller adjustment. It may be a better thought in my head then it would be in real world shooting


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there is...its called 100yds LOL!!

[XL105]

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[LoneWolf]

Unless shooting short range BR, maybe F-Class, or splitting playing cards with a 22. The only things by I see 1/8th turrets getting you is maybe a better Zero. More than likely at range you'll find yourself needing more than just a click... if I miss low or to the side of a target I always just hold the correct. Maybe if I was trying to shoot Silver Dollars at 1000, but then again by the time you see you he shot placement, reach up and adjust 1 click, the wind has already changed....


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[Phranque]

Bushnell Tactical Elite ERS... A lot of people look down their nose at these because it's "Bushnell", but their top end scopes are awesome for the money, and it's dead in your price range.

[Rob01]

Unless shooting short range BR, maybe F-Class, or splitting playing cards with a 22. The only things by I see 1/8th turrets getting you is maybe a better Zero. More than likely at range you'll find yourself needing more than just a click... if I miss low or to the side of a target I always just hold the correct. Maybe if I was trying to shoot Silver Dollars at 1000, but then again by the time you see you he shot placement, reach up and adjust 1 click, the wind has already changed....


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Exactly. 1/8 MOA aren't needed. At ELR a 1/2 mph wind change will move you more than that 1/8 MOA. It's something that sounds better in theory than in use.

As for the perfect zero, the Razor series and the AMG from Vortex have clickless zeroing so you can get a perfect zero without having to worry about 1/8 MOA clicks. The original 5-20x Razor has 125 MOA of elevation and plenty of power to shoot to 2500 yards and runs around $1699. The 3-18x Razor II can also be had for under $2000 and also has more than enough elevation adjustments.

[XL105]

Yobuck is a f in tard

[Sleeper99]

That has always annoyed me about leupold. You might want to look into the Burris XTR II 5-25x50. I has everything you are looking for, a few reticle options, you can have it in MOA or MIL matching turrets to reticle and be under budget. My .02

[yobuck]

It may be a better thought in my head then it would be in real world shooting


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That sums it up nicely for lots of things in the (real) world of shooting long distances. lol

[iflyskyhigh]

SWFA SS 5-20X50HD

https://swfa.com/catalog/product/view/id/105472/s/swfa-ss-hd-5-20x50-tactical-30mm-riflescope/


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[Rich Coyle]

Bushnell Tactical Elite ERS... A lot of people look down their nose at these because it's "Bushnell", but their top end scopes are awesome for the money, and it's dead in your price range.

If the glass in the Bushnell Tacticals is as good as the glass in the 6500 4 1/2-30X50 you will be hard pressed to find something with better glass. Just yesterday I had a chance to compare my Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50 with a Vortex Razor 5-25X50 outside the store. I found a sign with writing on it hundreds of yards away. I laid the Razor on a sandbag. It took a couple minutes of adjustments to read the words instead of making out a letter or two with it on 5X. No further adjustments helped. I switched to the 6500 with it set on 4 1/2X. Instantly I could read it with ease. So far the only scope to have better glass has been my Nightforce 12-42X56. I have owned three Bushnell 6500 2 1/2-16Xs, one Leupold VX-6 4-24X52, four Swarovski z5 5-25X52s, one Minox 5-25X56, one Nikon Monarch 3 5-20X44, one Weaver V24 6-24X, and probably others I don't remember at the moment. None, including the Bushenll 6500 2 1/2-16 have glass as clear as the 4 1/2-30X except the Nightforce. Also I have compared them with all sorts of brands at the range. All of them are good enough to see 6.5mm bullet holes on cardboard at 400 yards.

One day I had a Bushnell 6500 4 1/2-30X50, a Leupold VX-6 4-24X52, a Minox 5-25X56, and a Swarovski z5 5-25X52 laying on sandbags aimed at a chart 127 yards away. I asked my son-in-law to look through them and tell me which one was best to him. He knelt down and looked through them for a few seconds and said, "This one," indicating the 6500. "No! I want you to adjust them to your eye and take a moment," I pleaded. He did. Then he reiterated, "Yep. It's this one," again indicating the 6500.

[Rob01]

The only problem is the OP is looking for an ELR scope. The scopes mentioned have limited internal elevation. The Bushnell 4.5-30 only has 50 MOA total. None will do what he wants. Rifle scopes aren't just telescopes. Yes clear glass is great but being able to see something a little better than with another and not being able to hit it as you can't dial up enough elevation doesn't do the job. The Razor has good glass and I know more than one person who uses it on ELR rifles to shoot a mile plus.

[bowfishn]

The Bushnell 4.5-30 scope I am looking at Elite Tactical LSR 4.5-30x50 has 35 inches up and the Elite Tactical XRS 4.5-30x50 has 30 Mils up (108 inches) the XRS model is more in line with the OPs price range. The LSR is a SFP and is much less money, but with a 20 moa base it will get me to 1600 yards not counting the mil dots on the Reticle.

[Rob01]

The Elite tactical XRS is a different animal than the others mentioned. It does have more internal and could be used as an ELR scope.

The LRS is 35 inches up? You mean MOA? If so that is not a lot. The Razor has 125 MOA of total elevation. A .308 can take 32-42 MOA to get to 1000. What caliber you shooting?

I just checked and the LRS has 35" total elevation which is 17.5 up and 17.5 down. You wouldn't even be able to zero at 100 with a 20 MOA base. You should look for another scope if you plan to shoot to 1600 yards.

http://bushnell.com/tactical/riflescopes/elite-tactical/xrs-4-5-30x-50mm-mil-dot

[Sleeper99]

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[bowfishn]

Bushnell lists some of their tactical elites as UP or half of the total and some as Total.
ET4305 is listed as UP or half of total. There is a good review for the ET4305 here:http://www.gunsumerreports.com/review_bushnell_elite_tactical_p1.php
They found according to the total turret adjustment the ET4305 has 85 inches total, of coarse if you use up total you will not be able to adjust as much for windage, that may be why the ET4305 is listed as only 35 inches Up and not 42.5 inches as they got from total adjustment.
Some of the models such as found here:http://bushnell.com/tactical/riflescopes/elite-tactical/ers-6-24x-50mm-mil-dot are listed as total 24 mils or 86.4 inches

[bowfishn]

Even my 30-06 only requires 27" to get it to 1000 yards with the 165 grain bullet I use at 3100 fps out of my Sako Finnbear. It goes subsonic at about 1250 yards 1250 yards requires 41" of coarse these figures are based on published ballistics not actual range results.
The rifle I will set the scope up on is a 6.5 Creedmore which is much flatter shooting.