Beware: 10FCP-SR has been changed

[acridsaint]

Do you know the part number for the non-AccuStock version? Mine is a 2015 and has an AccuStock.

I put 50 rounds through mine today and my thread protector did shoot loose, but not so bad that I noticed before I finished. The rifle is accurate, regardless. Better than I can shoot. I did manage barely sub-moa at 100 yards with 168SMKs and I think it could do .5" or better if I had operated the rifle better.

The mag that came with it is junk, plain and simple. The bolt failed to strip rounds from the magazine at least twice, maybe three times (I was working in a group and had a lot of stuff to keep track of). I had at least four magazine related failures in 50 rounds. In the instances where it failed to strip a round, I successfully fired a round, manipulated the bolt to ejection, returned to battery and received a "click". I think the rounds are tilting in the mag and not feeding up every time.

It's very difficult to positively insert, even with only 3-5 rounds in it, which resulted in the other 2-3 failures. I have to make sure that I try to rip it free from the rifle before firing. I don't know how people with flush mags do it. I guess just slap the daylights out of it, but that's tough to do prone. I hope that the replacement mag from Savage is better, but I'm not holding my breath.

Well, just checked mine, it IS NOT an Accustock. Savage's website clearly states they come with an Accustock. There is no aluminum bedding in it. I doubt I can return it to Cabela's, but I will try. Not happy with Savage.

Well, I spoke with Cabela's and it is complete BS. Apparently, the 10FCP-SR on Savage's site is not the same one that is out at Cabela's. So, if you go by Savage's site, you might get screwed. The one out at a lot of places is a late 2014 version that does not come with the Accustock. I guess some places have it, but not many. Pissed is an understatement. I will call Savage on Monday and see if they will send an Accustock, if not, I am selling this. Between this and the turd mag, I just got really soured on Savage.

[raygun]

Hey Ronnoc … my FFL ordered my rifle from savage itself , mine came with the accustock . As far as groups, 1 moa at times, sometimes better . I was having a hard time with the cheek weld … did a little research and purchased the Bradley adjustable cheek rest…worked great… groupings started getting better .. as far as ammo i used Hornady to sight in .. then switched to Portuguese battle pack ammo… just as good . On my last range day it all fell into place.

[Twinsen]

I was having a hard time with the cheek weld … did a little research and purchased the Bradley adjustable cheek rest…worked great… groupings started getting better

These stock designs with the huge drop are supposedly remnants of bad decisions made a decade or two before I was born. Savage knows they don't offer these rifles with low bore line iron sights, but they pattern the stocks for such use anyway. One day they'll catch up to 1975 and quit it. Until then, Karsten will get my money and Bradley will get yours.

none of us will know until they come out and someone puts one in their Savage.

I'm your huckleberry.

[Ronnoc]

I am not sure where to look for non-accustock part number, can you tell me?

I have to say, I feel this was deceitful on Savage's part. I will certainly be loathe to purchase another Savage rifle and planned next week to be one of the tactical style 22s, but that most likely will not occur, and had possibly planned a third based on what so many said about the rifles from them. I did not expect a GA Precision, but I did expect better than this.

[acridsaint]

I would like to update that I don't think the rounds are tilting, I think the magazine is coming free under use. I tested it with snap caps tonight and found that the magazine came loose after bolt manipulation. I made 100% sure that it was seated properly before I tested and found that when the round wouldn't strip, the magazine was able to be ripped free. I think that whatever movement is causing this will only be compounded by recoil.

It's my feeling that 100% of my magazine failures came from the mag partially or fully dropping out of the mag well. At first I thought that the mag drops were user error, but at this point I believe that either my magazine or mag well are failing. I'll test it with the new magazine and see if the issue still exists.

[acridsaint]

By the way, I concur completely about it being deceitful and wrote the same before. This is my third Savage and probably my last new one. I'm willing to pay more and get less rifle in the future, just to speak with my wallet.

I am not sure where to look for non-accustock part number, can you tell me?

I have to say, I feel this was deceitful on Savage's part. I will certainly be loathe to purchase another Savage rifle and planned next week to be one of the tactical style 22s, but that most likely will not occur, and had possibly planned a third based on what so many said about the rifles from them. I did not expect a GA Precision, but I did expect better than this.

[Rapid Case Kicker]

I put 50 rounds through mine today and my thread protector did shoot loose, but not so bad that I noticed before I finished.

I use suppressor and compensators on my guns and have found the best way to solve the thread protector problem of it coming while shooting. I thread it on all the way and tighten it by hand. Then I mark the bottom of the thread protector and drill a small hole there. Then I have a hole I can use to tighten it on with a spanner wrench without having to break out the pliers and mess up the finish.

[Ronnoc]

I use suppressor and compensators on my guns and have found the best way to solve the thread protector problem of it coming while shooting. I thread it on all the way and tighten it by hand. Then I mark the bottom of the thread protector and drill a small hole there. Then I have a hole I can use to tighten it on with a spanner wrench without having to break out the pliers and mess up the finish.

Why not a drop of Rocksett or Red Loctite? Most of my guns I just use a torque wrench for my QD muzzle devices, but it sounds like something like Rocksett would be better on this gun.

[Rapid Case Kicker]

Why not a drop of Rocksett or Red Loctite? Most of my guns I just use a torque wrench for my QD muzzle devices, but it sounds like something like Rocksett would be better on this gun.

Red Loctite works great at keeping the thread protector on the end of the barrel, but the little hole at the bottom of the thread protector allows me to take it off without using a tool that will mar the finish. Keeping my thread protector on isn't the issue, taking it off is.

[acridsaint]

Thanks for the tip.

I use suppressor and compensators on my guns and have found the best way to solve the thread protector problem of it coming while shooting. I thread it on all the way and tighten it by hand. Then I mark the bottom of the thread protector and drill a small hole there. Then I have a hole I can use to tighten it on with a spanner wrench without having to break out the pliers and mess up the finish.

[Jaggy13]

Wow, just keeps getting better.

I have the same version that Ronnoc has. When I called Savage I was told that it is a special edition made for cabelas. I was also told that the AccuStock will not fit the action as the recoil lugs are different.

-Neo

Hey guys, great sight here.
I was on board with one of these rifles for a long range project until I read this.

I was planning on dropping this action and trigger into a chassis and re-barreling in 260 rem.
This solved the bottom metal issue and I need AICS mags anyway, so no problem there. I was planning on keeping or selling the stock and barrel, even the bottom metal and mag.
But now, I don't know if the action is even worth buying.
The Cabelas model is what I was about to purchase. They are shipping one to my store so I can buy it.
Tell me if this is still going to work or not please.
If not, I still may go with the FCP-SR just on line instead of the Cabelas version.
Thanks in advance!

[acridsaint]

I don't get your question entirely. Are you thinking that the bottom metal will work for you? Because the new Savage metal doesn't work with AICS mags. If you're getting rid of everything but the action, I would not bother with the FCP-SR in either version. I'd just get a cheaper 10 model. You'll also get a stainless bolt that way, which are a little smoother out of the box, in my opinion. By the time your FCP bolt is smooth, it'll be missing half of the black finish anyways. The only thing that the FCP-SR action will get you is the extended bolt handle, which you can probably swap for less than the price difference.

[Twinsen]

If you're going with a chassis, just get the cheapest model 10/11/etc you can. Probably the hog hunter.

You can swap the bolt handle of a Savage in 2 minutes and they're cheap.

[Jaggy13]

Thanks for the reply's.
acridsaint, I was going to remove the bottom metal entirely. The Chassis has bottom metal for AICS built in.

Twinsen, The FCP-SR was the cheapest I could find.
It was $550 after rebait at Cabelas.

Now I am thinking of just choosing a different model as you have suggested.
Thanks for the suggestion of the steel bolt. I will do that.
Also I am new to Savages and Bolt guns in general but not to high round count shooting.
I want a good 1000 yard gun that bucks wind and stays flat with extended barrel life.
I choose the 6.5 based on those criteria and the 260 because I would like to add a gas gun down the road.

I'm open to any suggestions you have, I will be adding a suppressor at some point and a comp immediately, so a threaded barrel is needed, but can be done locally.
The gun that inspired me is a model 11 with a criterion barrel shooting 1/3 MOA.
I think I have decided on a 24" barrel mostly for the suppressor, do you think this rifle dropped into a chassis will work for what I want?
http://www.tombstonetactical.com/catalog/savage-arms/19130-10-predator-hunter-rifle-260rem-24in-3rd-max1-camo/
Or should I follow Twinsen's advice and choose the hog hunter and replace the barrel as well?

I would also like to stay with the top located bolt release, but I think one of my chassis options allows for trigger guard bolt release.
Thanks guys, I feel like I have been drinking from the fire hose on this project. Lots of info out there that is not necessarily linear.

Mods, If you want to break this post off into a new thread, I'm fine with that. Other wise, I will start a new topic called "help me build a long range rig"
Thanks in advance.