about annealing brass?

[yobuck]

I agree, Have you noticed how many great shooters there are nowdays. Technical understanding has brought the world a new level of expertice.

well im not here to argue but there are occaisions i think its ok to challenge.
being somewhat elderly has few advantages. but one is hindsite.
there have always been great shooters. yes the equiptment we have today
is certainly better than ever. that means there are more of us able to do things
only the best were able to do in years past. fact is many of the 1000yd shooters
never annealed cases. that includes the man who held the 10 shot world record
for 14 years untill about 2 years ago. i dont think i or anyone is saying its a waste
of time dont do it. how about trimming the tips on match bullets?
we should all rush out and buy that tool also right? some will argue that if you dont
have a nightforce or schmit&bender scope you cant shoot long range. well what in hell did we use
before anybody ever even heard those names? and frankly thats not very long ago.
does a quarter or even a half grain of powder change your point of impact at 100 yds?
so why are we trickeling powder? we do it for us not the gun. we do lots of things for us.

[acemisser]

the way I do mine is ...I put a socket in the drill and set the case in it and turn it slow..the tempstik I got seems to be working
ok.But I aint gonna put them in water.Then I will have to dry them,etc...actually by using the 1 10000 2 1000 method counting to 4 is just about right...lol I appreciate your replies,etc...My goal is to have a more consistend neck tention on the boolet....

[Westcliffe01]

You are entitled to do however you wish with your money and time.

But lets face a few facts:
Have you ever seen ammo, brass or other components as expensive or as hard to find as now ? In times past, ammo was so cheap plenty of people wouldn't even bother to pick up their brass, and shooting 1000 rounds of ammo in a day was no problem.

Are you better off financially today than 10 or 20 years ago ? Are you or your kids better able to afford college, a car or a home compared to then ? The fact is that we are becoming poorer and out money is becoming worth less every day, and there are now a few billion Indians and Chinese wanting the same steel, copper and aluminum, not to mention fuel and power than we do.

I think the trend in annealing brass is a reaction to the financial, scarcity and performance issues that have been alluded to. it is no longer so comfortable just throwing away brass that is over $1 (up to nearly $3) per shell. We also expect it to perform as good on the next firing as the last.

If you can afford to chuck your brass when it is no longer workable (and that may be after 2, 3 or 4 firings depending on caliber, load etc) then good for you.

well im not here to argue but there are occaisions i think its ok to challenge. being somewhat elderly has few advantages. but one is hindsite. there have always been great shooters. yes the equiptment we have today is certainly better than ever. that means there are more of us able to do things only the best were able to do in years past. fact is many of the 1000yd shooters never annealed cases. that includes the man who held the 10 shot world record for 14 years untill about 2 years ago. i dont think i or anyone is saying its a waste of time dont do it.

[yobuck]

You are entitled to do however you wish with your money and time.

But lets face a few facts:
Have you ever seen ammo, brass or other components as expensive or as hard to find as now ? In times past, ammo was so cheap plenty of people wouldn't even bother to pick up their brass, and shooting 1000 rounds of ammo in a day was no problem.

Are you better off financially today than 10 or 20 years ago ? Are you or your kids better able to afford college, a car or a home compared to then ? The fact is that we are becoming poorer and out money is becoming worth less every day, and there are now a few billion Indians and Chinese wanting the same steel, copper and aluminum, not to mention fuel and power than we do.

I think the trend in annealing brass is a reaction to the financial, scarcity and performance issues that have been alluded to. it is no longer so comfortable just throwing away brass that is over $1 (up to nearly $3) per shell. We also expect it to perform as good on the next firing as the last.

If you can afford to chuck your brass when it is no longer workable (and that may be after 2, 3 or 4 firings depending on caliber, load etc) then good for you.

well now were talking a different situation. i totaly agree with all you just said. this country is going to hell and seemingly nobody cares.
can we keep it going long enough for me to get my 30 year pension and bennies seems to be the important issue for all to many.
but thats a whole nuther debate. this one was about we cant shoot good groups unless we anneal our brass.
i do intend to start annealing for the exact reasons you site. i have no illusions about it making me a better shooter however. im not gonna be annealing 500 223s to take on a prairie dog hunt. and guess what also, i aint trickeling the powder either.