Quote Originally Posted by SageRat Shooter View Post
Take it for what its worth.... But I would look at Leupold way before Vortex... If you take a look through this site, you will find a vast amount of threads about the failings of Vortex scopes. Particularly anything below the PST line.

As far as red dot goes, that's up to you and where/what kind of hunting you do. I live in OR and the hunting we do here is mostly thick timber with the occasional longer shot up to about 200 yards. I use a Savage 111 in 30-06 with a Leupold VX-2 (4-12x40) and find it to be perfect for either application.

Just my .02
Do a Google search and you will find the new Leupolds are not all that. They are failing left and right. Not saying Vortex is the shiznit but Leupolds are no longer all that either.

Here is 14 pages of reading on the subject:


http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthr...pics/2528606/2