Hammer I gotta say that I have been a big fan of the Quarter Bore for many years! I just purchased my very first .223 the other day in a Savage model 12, already had a Ruger in a 25-06 (bench gun bull barrel) and it is real accurate out passed 400 yards on critters I wish to put down for keeps. I think the .223 is less nerve racking at the bench but other than that I love my 25-06's.