Quote Originally Posted by JASmith View Post
From a fellow Vietnam Vet, I'm glad you made it back!

Regarding unimpressive accuracy, I do know that the AR platform has a reputation for sloppy groups. That said, many folks on the Grendel Forum report better than MOA accuracy and a few see better than 0.5 MOA. Now, most of us don't report the lousy groups partly because we think we can "alibi" the poor patterns, so getting a real handle on nominal AR accuracy can be a challenge.

The Savage can turn in very accurate groups, especially with a cartridge like the Grendel. I wildcatted the Grendel to 20 caliber on the Model 16 a few years back. I rarely saw groups larger than 1.25 inches at 100 yards, and had a few loads that did better than 0.5 MOA. The 12 FV should do at least as well, especially if the builder and shooter do their parts.
Thanks JAS. Best my Grendel AR would do was 1.25" at 200 yards no matter what tricks, bullets, powders, OAL or primer combos I tried so I gave up on it. I even tried Hornady BlackBox factory ammo and it was still unimpressive.