In the 223 I use the 75 Amax in my Savage model 12BVSS, I don't recall any getting away. they do the damage out to 711yds my longest with the 223/75Amax combo. at 500 yds meat is all over, a skunk at 628yds he was looking in a hole for a mole and he lifted his tail, and I put an Amax right where he poo's never moved an fraction of an inch. velocity is right at 3000fps, give them a try
Chet
PS I am now load testing some 105's in my 6BR,
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