Thanks for all the replies, I wish I had gotten some groups before I pulled the stock off so I knew what it was capable of at the factory setting. Yes every rifle is different and it is a learning experience, I'm thinking part of the answer will be in getting the torque setting right on the action screws. Thought about calling Savage and asking for the "factory" setting but read different posts here and they recommended experimentation to find the best setting. If someone has a preferred setting I would love to hear it! Right now it is shooting bad with the better ammo, ADI with 168 Sierra MK and Prvi 168gr match, and shooting best with standard Remington and Federal 150gr sp and S&B 147 fmj. For fmj to beat SMK hpbt doesn't seem right!