If you'll excuse my ignorance, what is a "gray rat 1893"?
I was in a pawn shop today that had a true gray rat model G. The tag said model 893, I looked the rifle over and the front of the receiver had two holes. One hole was where the 1 should have been. The other three digits were clearly 893, the three was clear and centered and did not seem to be a partial strike. The owner said he did some research, and was told this was common. What say you all, oh it was priced at $600.
If you'll excuse my ignorance, what is a "gray rat 1893"?
I have to guess that "Gray Rat" means 0% of the original finish left and "normal" wear and tear for a lifetime or two of hard use.
A good, useable rifle. ;-)
What make and model rifle is it? Other than the "G" variant.
I'm not making a connection to 1893.
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik
The rifle was certainly a 1899 G but the last didgit was clearly a 3 the owner insisted he had researched it and had learned it was a common miss print. I haven’t found any evidence to support that. Even if it was the only one, the rifle was so bad it would have no value. Just wondering if any one else had seen one.
There shouldn't have been anything stamped 1893 in front of the barrel on a G unless it was the patent dates, but there would be more than just 1893.
Did you get a serial number from under the receiver?
Savage- "never say never".
The 1893 was the model number stamped on top of the receiver, the #9 was obscured by a hole drilled for a scope mount. The last number stamped for the model # was a 3.
Thanks. A gray rat is a rifle that's been abused and neglected. Luckily, I don't have any of those and neither does my family members.
I guess my understanding is a little blurry here. Are the coined names above, gray rat etc., a "one-size-fits-all" classification like "gat", "rod", "heater", "iron", etc. or are they the names for his personal weapons? In other words, if I have an old Colt .45 with most of the blueing gone, would it be considered a gray rat? Are the terms specific to Savage-made weapons/rifles?
Specific to 99's.
A studded rat had sling eyes or studs, a hybrid rat had a mix of non original items like sling eyes and drilled for a scope, etc.
We used to actually have a list of the different types of rats.
Savage- "never say never".
I have to know. What's a Swiss Rat, then?
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
Or perforated like "Swiss Cheese"?
"They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance." Last words of Gen. Sedgwik
Ya Stumpkiller, it had extra holes.
Savage- "never say never".
Yeah, that was my first guess . . . drilled for at least one, maybe more, side mount scope bases.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
First one is an 1899A Short Rifle.
Second is a model 1895 that someone had replaced the buttstock.
The third is an 1899C in 32-40.
Are you confused by sellers that don't know what they're selling?
Savage- "never say never".
Mad Dog, I thought it was interesting there were so many people selling something that I did not know existed.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is alive and well.
"Life' is tough. It's even tougher if you're stupid." ~ John Wayne
“Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer.” —Mark Twain
Yep, thats why you see alot of guys calling a Savage pistol model 1907 a 1906.
Savage- "never say never".
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