I'm just not getting anywhere with reloads for this rifle. I've finally gotten the velocities down to around 3550 for 4895 and 3031, but they are no way as accurate as the Hornady factory, nor is any other load. The factory at 50yds shoots a ragged 1/4" hole at 50yds where the others shoot off to the right and 1" or more groups, at 50yds. I'm about to give up and just buy the factory stuff. Why bother?