Thanks Borg. I used to shoot around 3000 rounds a year in practice and competition, shooting trad. muzzleloaders here in KY and at the NMLRA national champion ships, in june and sept. and at the Alvin YOurk memorial shoot in Tenn., just south of here. I have medaled 31 times, Gold, Silver and Bronze in national competition, and won 1st place in the KY bluegrass state games in 2004, 2nd in 2005. I didnt get to use a sling in those matches, so when I sling up it feels like a benchrest.