I have a Sav 110 of some flavor .223 that appears to be a 1:12 or more based on trying to pull the largest cotton I could through it... I coudn't get reliable numbers but it is certainly far slower than a 1:9! I have no idea how old the gun is, however. I may have no use for the barrel later this year, but it does NOT seem to be that accurate!! Its the sporter barrel.

I just ordered a 1:13 twist Shilen 6PPC Savage Prefit. Shilen will make you any of a range of twists, some quite slow; others will too, I'm sure. The vendors on this board appear to be able to get a much better price than the "retail".

gordon