I bought a new Savage 11/111 7mm Remington magnum to scratch my itch. $300.00 for a new complete rifle package after rebate. Now comes the brass, dies, etc. to round it out. I have a buddy that has a Ruger 7mm mag and watched him make some great shots with it, deer and elk. Another use for the 7mm-08, hunting deer with a TC Encore 15" barrel pistol in a 7mm-08 or the 7-30 Waters. I have both and are excellent out to 250 yards for me.