I'll give the proper way another shot tomorrow and see how it does with this gun. Given the fact that hands are vastly different in size and how critical everyone seems to describe the proper trigger pull, I'm really amazed the length from grip to trigger is not adjustable or even a measured length. Sounds like it's a very critical length and it must be right but one size fits all? I get that you can kind of get it right with the slope in most stocks but then you start changing wrist angles....is that why a lot of serious shooters prefer the more upright grip?