"25", I hear you bud. I have followed the 6.5 SAUM 4s since it's inception, and it is just "sooo" cool. But I have absolutely no use for it. Some people do. They need that little extra fps to stay supersonic at the distance their shooting,whatever. The Creedmore has "cool factor" right now, but since I have a 260 Rem and a 6.5 Grendel, I don't need a "creed" eather. Cost is important to me also, and I don't have enough time to shoot all I got, so I'll just stay where I am.

Thanks....Jim :-)