The problem with the 140 ELD-M if shooting commercial ammo is OAL. My max OAL for my 10T 6.5cm is 2.860. I measured the 140, 2.820. Its not close enough to the lands, which match rounds need to be. If those were reloads, would like to know how close he set them to the lands. A-max doesn't need to be close to the lands. I tried reloading 308 with A-max close to the lands to see if they would tighten up as I got closer. Got worst the closer I got. Leave them at 2.800 now and shoot great. The A-max will be replaced by the ELD from what hornady told me. All there tips will use the new ones. Notice even the match rounds now use the new tips vs a hollow tip? BC's are even better with tip on.