For those of you who believe reduced loads can be dangerous, read Hodgdon's information on reduced loads using H4895. They clearly state that these loads may be reduced to as much as 60% of max. This means a .308 can be safely reduced to as low as a 27.5 grain powder charge. I even called Hodgdon and spoke with a tech who assured me that this was safe but he cautioned not to do this with any powder other than H4895. I still have not figured out how to determine velocity for these reduced loads without a chrono. I was hoping someone knew of a chart or program that could predict reduced load velocity.