For example (and at the risk of cutting my own supply) this stuff shoots 1.5-2" groups all day long from my gun at 100, and easily under 4" at 200 yards, carrying a measured 1004 ft. lbs of energy at 200 yards. I'm not sure how that isn't ideal for shorter-range whitetail and hog hunting, esp. considering how light the recoil is. My daughter's .243 kicks way worse than my 7.62x39, if you can believe that.

http://www.luckygunner.com/7-62x39mm...ammo-40-rounds

Check that price. It's $11.50 for 40 rounds, not 20.

And I know they list the MV at 2100, but surely that's out of short-barreled AK's or SKS rifles, as my 20" bolt gun gives 2200 every time.