The last time I looked, the 12FV was not on Savage's website. I see you're without a Cabelas, which may take it further out of the running. Unfortunately, now that I'm looking for other vendors, I see that the 12FV is not very common and way more expensive than at Cabelas. What is normally a $430 rifle ($380 on sale) is $600+ from other stores. That's almost like the other sellers are paying retail price at Cabelas and then reselling the rifles!