buymore, it's not "too much" for deer. I use my 358Win with 225grn SGK's on whitetail. The thing about a heavy, slow moving bullet, 2,500fps or less, you can hit shoulder bone, anchor the animal right there, and not hurt any meat. For the same reason, I use 220grn SPH in my 30/06. I just bought a 444 Marlin barrel for my Handi Rifle and I can't wait to put a 265grn slug through "Bucky Buck" and see the results. It's a great feeling to look through the scope after you've broke the shoot and see you've knocked him off his feet, and not destroyed any meat. :-)