As to cleaning-

I am a sucker for product claims.
Over the years, starting with Hoppe's #9, then going to about two dozen other brands and products, all around and dedicated for single purpose cleaning, i.e. lead or carbon or copper or other worldly metals or carbon based materials, I have reaffirmed a prior observation, including but not limited to Outer's foam cleaner, Eezox, Iosso, Shooter's Choice products, to a bunch more.

NO MATTER WHAT, ONE CAN CLEAN PER INSTRUCTIONS WITH ANY GIVEN PRODUCT, AND THEN USE ANOTHER PRODUCT ON A "WHISTLE CLEAN" ACTION AND BARREL, STUFF WILL STILL COME OUT ON THE NEW PATCH.

Anyone with ONE product? PatchOut and Accelerator to be received shortly but I am not thrilled at all with sitting at a range in 15 degree weather in a wind waiting for it to work after every five or ten shots.

I like the Shooter's Choice but it stinks up the house when cleaning inside, never mind the trash pail in the kitchen.