You can make your own out of lamp rod, fairly easy. To be completely honest I have only pillard 1 rifle stock. I used these, http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet...-Pillar/Detail . Job was fairly easy but I definately learned a few things I will do differently next time. I will use lamp rod next time instead of the pre made ones from stockys becouse the pre made ones have a flaired end on them, makes it impossible to pillar and bed at the same time. This leads me to my second point actually. The next time I do a pillar job, I will definately install the pillars at the same time as I bed it. Not that its difficult, I just think it would be easier. With all of this said though, I am not even certain I would ever pillar again to be honest. I would definately shoot the rifle first. If it shoots well, I would not even bother with anything other than a bedding job. If it doesn't, then I would pillar it.