We'll see maybe I'll play with them tomorrow. Been holding off to let the finish harden thoroughly. Hope to get the kids out to 300 and 440 yards next weekend if I can. I only have 100yards here for playing. Thats where I think the stocks will really help their shooting. These are they're hunting rigs the scopes are a 3-9 Leopold Rifleman and a 4-12 Pentax GameSeeker III. So not really expecting match results here.