not to cause a ruckess but a 10/22 classic with a 22" barrel is by far better that a 10/22 carbine 18" barrel out of the box as far as accuracy, I have a Marlin 60 22LR 40 years old, a new Henry and the classic 10/22, looking to add a savage 22lr to my collection to compare them all :) cannot spend to much, the old lady is about to kill me anyway LOL my gun case is over flowing now :)