bedding
I am sighting in the new savage 111 .300 win mag build that me and my bro have finished and the accuracy that we are getting is poor at best. It is a criterion barrel that has been broke in properly and is sitting in a boyds nutmeg stock. we have inletted the barrel to the stock and is now free floating, so there are no contact points. We have been shooting 180gr. nosler balistic tips into around 1" at 100yards and just recently tried some remington 180 gr. accutips tonite and it hit center on first shot and then 4" low on the next shot. The rifle has been shooting all over the whole break in process and so my question is what could be causing the stringing and widespread shots? Im confused myself and dont what could be wrong. Any info on this would be great. Thanks
bedding
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Check to see if base & ring are loose, need clearance around front, sides & bottom of recoil lug, check tang for free float, if no free float, the action may not be touching pillars. Scope may have went bad, if other things don't help, try another scope.
My bet is Scope failure or scope base issue.
Often times the screws for the front base are too long and they bottom out before they actually tighten on the base itself. So you think its tight, but its not.
If all that checks out then as mentioned above check the tang for float. With a Remmy there is a screw there so you would want it bedded or at least snug, but on a Savage the screw is well ahead of it and long story short it can cause action pressure point issues and can cause problems.
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Sometimes the Savage rifles take a slight bit of tweaking, but once they are dialed in there are no complaints!
First off it it isn't bedded...Bed it...then I would disassemble the entire rifle, completely, scope and rings, mounts as well, clean, inspect and reassemble torquing everything to spec. Fire it again...also...some scopes are just not up to 300WM recoil levels...consider getting better glass if you are not running a really good scope now, or just swap it out with another scope to see if the problem persists (its scope related at that point)...also...some twist/caliber configurations do not like X bullet weights...I found my Savage 300WM liked 168-175 Sierra's but not the 200+ bullets...my Savage 308 likes 175 FGMM, hates 168's, same twist rate, different caliber...it'll take some tweeking but my bet is you'll get it sorted out...
My experience with Boyd's stocks is they need to be glass bedded, especially if it doesn't have pillars installed.
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Another thing to check, is front action screw, a tad to long causing it to rub bolt head lug.
All actions should be bedded around each action screw, recoil lugs and preferably the distance between.
So on savage recoil lug to trigger. Float the tang. I go two pieces of electrical tape on the tang
Agreed large calibers watch your scopes. I wouldnt put anything other than luepold vortex NF S&B swfa on it.
Check the action screws get a metal trigger gaurd if your using a plastic one.
Pillar bed!
No the tang is at the rear of the action. The area under the safety button.
204, 22 K-Hornet, 222, 223, 22-250, 22-250AI, 6BR, 243, 243AI, 6-06, 6-WSM, 250-3000AI, 270, 7-08, 7RM, 30BR, 308, 30-06, 375 H&H, 444 Marlin, 450BM, 458WM
Heres my recent bedding jobs
1" groups @ 100 with a 300 WM? I would go back to the Noslers and play with seating depth and/or powder....1" is a great start. I would add that recoil/flinch may be one of the issues....have you shot heavy recoil rifles before?
I notice one reply said the recoil lug needs clearance on front, sides and bottom. I thought it needed to be bedded to stop torquing and movement
How does it stop side to side movement if it only touches the breach side? My Choate tactical stock had a big gap in front and side of lug and the Choate tech guy said it was left that way because people were putting thicker lugs on but he would bed the entire lug if it was his which I did and the gun shoots under 1/2 moa. This was my first but not last build and maybe I was lucky.
some shooters will permanently bed their action to their stock, but I won't.
If the action is bedded properly it won't shift. The recoil lug is suppose to handle the recoil, it is not there to stop any side to side twisting caused by pour action bedding.
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