op, sorry bud, I posted it on the elk caliber thread, getting old...
here you go. the 2 links, the 2nd one is from lapua
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY0w1c-gf18
This one shows what a 243 is cable of doing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17PaafVyMJc
This one explains what happens when you hit a bone
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