Hey gsperaz, hope all's well. Got my other box of 25gr on the 24th, same lot # as above, all seem to be ok. However I was on another rimfire forum today and saw pics of a 17 WSM 25gr round with no neck brass. The lower brass was there and the bullet was there but looked like the neck brass was shoved down into the case. Not to computer adept so I don't know how to bring the pics over here, but seen you'd been there and thought you might like to know. Good New Year to all.