I'm still trying to figure out why all you guys keep buying these Hog Hunters just to convert them over to DBM's. Sure would be a lot cheaper, easier and smarter to just start with a DBM model in the first place. After all, most every one I've seen has a scope slapped on it so the open sights aren't needed which is the only thing the Hog Hunter offers that isn't available on another model with a DBM.