ok guys this story gets even better, he sent me his load data. the first two rounds fired were factory ammo done at the smith to test functionality. the 3rd round fired down the barrel was 7 grains above published max for the powder manufacurer, and 5.5 grains for the bullet manufacturer, fired by him. this is on a custom cut tight chamber w/ some freebore on a 28" tube, hell of a way to break in a new barrel. i politely told him to enjoy HIS new gun, and he might want to check his lugs and bolt before he fired it again.