BTW, fgw, I just noticed.. Now that we've changed your bullet of choice to the 165 Nosler BT, guess what powder Nosler lists as the "most accurate powder tested" for 165's? You guessed it! IMR4350, specifically a max load of 57 grains, at 100% density, was the best of the best for them! Good for 2832 fps in their 24" Lilja test barrel. You're a genius, Frank! Don't change a thing! That's an ORDER! :)