man, I have a load with 105 grain berger vld's for my .243 that shoots really well. Has shot some groups in the .2's and .3's with most around .4 to .5 or so. its 39.7 grains of H4350 with a fed match primer and Win Brass. The bullet is set back .035 from the lands. 39.7 is the max load with H4350 from berger, and is safe in my gun with no signs of pressure.