I'll just work on the 223 loading for the time being I'm thinking the M1 carbine needs to find a new home and a Stevens 200 in 223 needs to replace it ;D I've got my LR rifles but nothing for these short range shots on deer! I'm used to 100 - 600 yard shot in western oklahoma now I'm in central oklahoma using long range rifles on shots of 50 yards messy is all I can say. Later,

Kirk