...If it's a high shoulder shot you'll lose some loin...Depends on how far back you hit-em...With the 85gr Sie. HPBT-GK or Nos 90gr BT I like the neck shots myself DRT...I don't do shoulder shots..Lungs or neck...I use the front legs for berger anyway so I guess it would'nt matter too much...A shoulder shot will lose alot of meat with those bullets...