Well I just retired yesterday after nearly 40 years in the textile business; like most other manufacturing based industries we are one of the few who survived this long. For lower cost shooting my wife bought me the bull barrel thumb hole 17HMR beauty that I tried out at the local range today. Had a Bushnell 3200 10X tactical on backup that fits it nicely. A bit windy but the Hornady 20XTP provided a 0.5 inch 5-shot group; the 17VMax a little worse at 0.7 inch - all strung horizontally (presumably due to the variable wind). I must say I am thrilled at the first day's performance. While the Accutrigger was adjusted to the minimum, there was still a noticeable pull required while I was focusing through the scope, waiting for the slight recoil to occur. Cleaned up now and I think I will pull the trigger, polish the sear surfaces, and install a lighter spring. Report to follow.