Yesterday I came across an advertisement in a hunting magazine that caught my eye. It was an extreme ammo made to put the .223 on par with the 22-250 @ long range. The ballistic table showed muzzle velocity to be 500 fps less than the 22-250 with 50gr v-max and this 53gr .223 was only 90fps less than the 22-250 load @ 500 yds. Not sure if we can get the bullets yet but it might be fun to load some up.