Okay, yeah...So I noticed The Savage 12 Benchrest .308 Winchester really rides the SEB Rest And SEB rear bag well, slide it back & forth, and it always goes back to the same point; as witnessd by the X hair returning to the same place every time I push the rifle forward.

So, I decide to try it 'free recoil'. W/ scope, the unloaded rifle tips the digital postal scale @ 12 lb, 8oz.
It works, WOOTZ! My shoulder is not touching the pad. Just slides back in a push, not a jab. I'll be quiet, look @ the pics.

My shoulder is about an inch away from the pad.
[img width=600 height=450]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/ultramag44/Savage%20Bench%2012/SavageFreeRecoilHold.jpg[/img]

Free Recoil shooting
[img width=600 height=399]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/ultramag44/Savage%20Bench%2012/SavageFreeRecoilTarget.jpg[/img]

Held Rifle
[img width=600 height=450]http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q228/ultramag44/Savage%20Bench%2012/SavageTargetlabeled1.jpg[/img]