Have read a lot and I mean a lot of post on this rifle, and savage all together. Now one post said the 11 is a bottom of the barrel rifle for savage! Is it?? Now ammo I shot ammo from $35.00 to $9.99. (308) I can shoot a little, and have a pic on the forum some were of a 4 shot clover leaf under an inch at 100 and 3 shot groups under an inch at 180. With the stock and scope, that came with it. I like the gun!! will get a new scope, but the perfeacta 308 at $13.00 a box shoots great no need to shoot the high dollar stuff, 147 grain, the 180,168, and the150 all shot under an inch at 100 and under an inch at 180, just the cheap stuff shoots as good as the rest just have to resight when using different grains.