The off-the-shelf 175 gold match shoots very well out of my rifles, but I can't find the bullets anywhere nor any powder, though I have a bit of 4064 and varget left. I have to content myself with 180 gr accubond for the >168 gr bullet loads --but I'm not sure how much range it needs to stabilize well for good groupings, and I'm limited to 100 yds for the time being.