I got a chance this week to purchase a model 11 in .223. The rifle was purchased by another inidividual, but was never shot. It was one of the package models with the cheap simmons 8pt scope and the sling. Even though I didnt need it (need is such a strong word), I picked it up for $350. I cleaned out the barrel, put a simmons 6.5 - 20 x 50 whitetail classic scope on it and grabbed a bunch of different types of reloads and factory ammo today and hit the range. The best group was some Ultramax 50 grain Nosler BT's that it did a three shot group of .375". It also shot a sub 1/2" group with some handloaded 50grain bt's I have for another rifle. Synthetic stock, factory sporter barrel, standard accutrigger with no mods. Man these things can shoot! I can think of all kinds of things I want to customize about it, but with this kind of performance, I may not touch it. Would make a fantastic knock about/coyote rifle. Just thought I would share. Aint it fun! ;D