7-300 win mag.

[kdog70]

I am looking for anyone that makes savage pre fits in 7-300 win mag? Anyone know of someone?

[Aircraftmech76]

The cartridge you're referring to would be the 7mm STW. I'm sure you could find a prefit though PacNor. They have reamers for everything.

Kevin

[jumpalot]

That would not be the 7mm STW. The STW is based off the 8mm Magnum not the 300 Winchester Magnum.

[leather5to1]

Sounds like it won't do anything a 7mm weatherby mag won't do. I would step up to a 7stw or 7x300 weatherby.

[Blue Avenger]

stw dies would be the cheapest of the bunch if you don't have some thing already.

[geargrinder]

Sounds like you're looking for a 7mm SIN ;D

Can't wait for Sinman to get this stuff going.

[kdog70]

I know there are other cartridges out there but a 7-300 win mag is what I want. I believe after do a bit of research that the 300 win mag case is the most ideal case for pushing the 180 grain bullet with out going to severe overbore area. I already had a 7 RUM and 7WSM and burnt those barrels out. Although they are great cartridges I have been there and done that looking to play with a new round. I stay away from all Weatherby rounds because I do not like paying for their brass, I have not had good experience with their brass.

What is the specs on 7mm SIN?

[leather5to1]

I don't think a 7x300 win would be better than a 7wsm for barrel life. But to answer you specific question I would call mcgowen and see if they can get the reamer for it, they have a place they rent what they don't have, for a fee, Pac-Nor lists it as one of their chamberings but I know nothing about ordering from them. I didn't know they did savage prefits. You could call shilen also, they don't list it but that doesn't mean they don't offer it.

[geargrinder]

What is the specs on 7mm SIN?

Sinman is developing these. The 338 is first, but I hope the 7mm is next.

It's going to be based on shortened and improved ultra mag brass. His goal is to get as much powder as possible and still be able to feed it as a repeater in a magnum magazine.

In the 7mm, it should fall between the 7RUM and 7STW.

[kdog70]

Now I am just side tracking my own thread but,the 338 should fall between the Edge and the 338 Norma mag right?

[Aircraftmech76]

That would not be the 7mm STW. The STW is based off the 8mm Magnum not the 300 Winchester Magnum.

You are correct; I meant to say that the cartridge he would most likely want would be the STW based on the fact that it's a more common cartridge, and based on the long belted magnum cartridge versus the short like the 7 and 338 WinMag's. Got a little ahead of myself there :-)

Kevin

[geargrinder]

Now I am just side tracking my own thread but,the 338 should fall between the Edge and the 338 Norma mag right?

It should be less than both of those. It should be about the same length as the Norma, but the Norma is a fatter case.

Looking at a bunch of case drawings, and not seeing Sinmans reamer print, I would guess the case will have about 100-105g's of capacity.

The Edge and Norma have roughly 110g.

The 338 Sin should fall between the 338-375Ruger and the 338RUM.

[sinman]

The 338 Sin holds about 6grs less than a 338 rum. I am hoping the Sin will be a little more efficient with the shoulder change to compensate for some of the powder loss and be able to match the 338 rum performance.

[Jeff518]

Aren't the 300 win mag and the 7mm Rem mag both based on the same cartridge (375 H&H)? what's the difference of the 7-300 from the 7mm mag?

[kdog70]

I do not know what case was the parent case but I am seeing/hearing reports of 100-150fps faster than the 7mm with the 180 Hybrid bullet. By using the 300 win mag brass quickload is seeing anywhere up to 10grains more of powder in the case. So essentially you are getting 7STW or 7 RUM speeds with 7 rem mag powder capacity and barrel life. That is what I gathered from it but if you run the 180grain berger vld at 3100-3150fps on JBM ballistics it is quite impressive. Barrels are meant to be shot up so see what happens.

[sinman]

So essentially you are getting 7STW or 7 RUM speeds with 7 rem mag powder capacity

Impossible, you would never match 7mm Rum speeds, and I have doubts you would match 7mm stw speeds either.

[bigngreen]

Very good info on the 7mm-300. http://www.ballisticstudies.com/Reso...l+Magnum..html

[wsmitty01]

Good article:
http://www.longrangehunting.com/foru...why-not-14907/

[efm77]

"Aren't the 300 win mag and the 7mm Rem mag both based on the same cartridge (375 H&H)? what's the difference of the 7-300 from the 7mm mag?"

They are both based off of the 375 H&H but the 300 win mag has more capacity than the 7mm rem mag because the shoulder is taller giving it more room in the case for powder. The overall length is about the same but the case length is slightly longer for the 300 and it has a taller shoulder. The 7mm rem mag case length is 2.5" and if memory serves correctly the 300 win mag case is 2.65 or 2.63. It has a shorter neck to keep the COAL the same so as to cycle in 30-06 length actions.

[kdog70]

Well not exactly the 7 RUM but close enough for me. My best 7 Rum load ran just over 3100 with the 180 Berger and I think I can push the Berger Vld hopefully near that mark.

[2000yd]

kdog70 my 7x300win has killed more deer out to 1600 yds than most people can think about

[2000yd]

kdog70 forgot to say it is improved...............and the stw and rum are way over in capacity..........check the load books....no better than a 7x300 weatherby send me your adress ill send pics of set up

[2000yd]

one more thing lapua makes 300 win brass.............been good to me

[geargrinder]

one more thing lapua makes 300 win brass.............been good to me

They haven't for a couple years.

[sinman]

the 7mm Sin should push the 180gr and 200gr bullets easily faster than the 7mm-300 Win though and maybe as fast as the 7mm Rum.