We use 17 HMR's for short range (150 yard max) prairie dog shooting. We all use the 17 gr v-max ammo. Between me and my friends we have a total of 5 Marlin 917's and 2 Savages, all heavy barrel models. All of the Marlin's shoot under 1 MOA with a couple that will shoot 1/2 MOA. The two Savages are 1.5 to 2 MOA. I am a Savage centerfire fan but the Savage rimfires have not worked out for me and my friends.

Keith