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    Charlie & Fuj'...thanks. I've been behind a trigger for a very long time but now...baby steps into LR shooting. Came cloase to freezing to death on that mountain in VA but hung in and so glad i did.

    I use JBM ALL the time for trajectory and terminal ft lbs numbers but never ventured out into twist rates. Will look for "stability" and proceed.

    Used the Berger site to find what you pointed out. Yes on the 95 gr - no on the 105 for 9.25 twist.

    .284/7mm? Long time fan for hunting...almost as good as my .270 Roy. Didn't know the 7mm was being used by the LR crowd. Shows how little I currently know.

    Will look into the 6.5x47. Brass and bullets availability always a concern nowadays. Why I am considering the 6.5 Creed. LR for me? KISS please.

    Thank you again for sharing gentlemen.

    Cheers.

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    https://www.6mmbr.com/7mm284.html

    I've gotten some good infor from this site for my other cartridges and when I was shopping for a new one.

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    6mm, 6.5mm or 7mm are all about equal at this point. All three offer excellent bullet selections, and there are so many different cartridge options in each now that you can pretty much pick a case size to match the velocity range you want to achieve with a given bullet. Biggest thing I look at is who makes brass for a given cartridge. If I can't get Lapua or Norma brass (though I'm here Peterson brass is pretty good as well) I won't consider it for long-range work. The other thing to consider if you're going to be shooting in matches is that a larger caliber bullet is beneficial if they're using best edge scoring.

    The .257 caliber is another you could throw in there as some high BC bullets have finally become available for it in recent years, but the selection still pretty slim at this point and some can be quite a bit more expensive. It's a "happy medium" between the 6mm and 6.5mm.
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    Play money is limited right now - prioritizing my purchase options. Have made 2 decisions for the rest of this year:

    1. Keeping my Low Profile Varmint rifle in .243 Win. Simply LIKE this rifle and have a LOT of confidence in its proven accuracy. GREAT trigger and rifle weight is helping me follow thru and see bullet impacts. Am stocked with brass, some bullets and Redding Dies working nicely.

    2. With LR shooting coming on board - letting go of 2 scopes, both SFP. Looking hard at the NF NX8 FFP 4x32x50. If I can find one.

    Thank you for your replies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taidog1 View Post
    Play money is limited right now - prioritizing my purchase options. Have made 2 decisions for the rest of this year:


    2. With LR shooting coming on board - letting go of 2 scopes, both SFP. Looking hard at the NF NX8 FFP 4x32x50. If I can find one.

    Thank you for your replies.

    Cheers.
    SFP works fine for LR... if it is a quality scope with good tracking and a reticle that can give you feedback... with a few minutes of studying you can figure out how to use your reticle at any power and how that changes your sub tensions... and if you are looking to save some money there's other good FFP options that wont be in the $2000 price range. It may be worth looking at that- and getting a 8 twist 243 barrel with the money you save.... because that opens up a lot better options for you with bullet choice.

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    If staying with the equipment you have, and not paying for the higher price
    Bergers, get a box of 95 gr. Sierra Match Kings.....Scope wise, All mine are
    SFPs. March High Master 10-60, Nightforce Competition. 15-55, Bushnell XRS
    4.5-30, and a Burris F-Flass 8-40. For the money, The Burris is a crazy good
    scope and overlooked because it is Heavy. It's currently on lone to Geremee
    Gervaise shooting Ridgway's 1000 yard VBR.....For a scope that you will see
    the most on bench's at match's is the Night Force 15-55 Comp. I like it as good
    as my March, and was on my 1000 yard gun......There is also the Vortex GE 10-60
    I had one and got rid of it. They were at a good price point a few years ago, but
    since then, they jacked up the price beyond reason. The NF Comp is far superior.
    Take a strong look at the Burris if money is tight. I use the bracketed dot reticle
    on the rifle I shoot steel with. The bracket is great when mirage gets thick and you
    have a hard time trying to resolve the center.
    Keeping my bad Karma intact since 1952

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    The wife and I (that's always at least two $copes) have slowly moved up from 100yd play with scopes like the cheapo Diamond Backs,etc,.
    The ones that we now have mounted are the Element Titan, Cronus G2, Burris XTR2 8-40 , and Bushnell XRS2 4.5-30.
    The BEST one, the Burris is currently mounted on the wife's 22Nosler savage for 600yd F-Class and playing on steel @ 800.
    Bought all four from classified ads on various gun forums, "like new in box".
    I hope to move up to 1000yds after we (or one of us ) Masters 600.
    The challenge will be US, and the little 22N, not the scopes.

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    Thank you Gentlemen...will spend time considering your good counsel.

    A candid admission......................I came home from VA LR training, pleased with my .243 Win & 90 gr bullets. Remember now, I'm new to the LR shooting game.

    Many l-o-n-g hrs have been spent studying and listening to some very good advice. As of today, with the 9.25 twist rate I have, I simply cannot shoot a heavier, more advantageous LR bullet weight. Yes, I could go to a faster twist barrel. Good advice. However, I'm also seeing a lot of good information on the 6.5 Creedmoor for LR Target shooting. Not going to rush this but I am considering a trade to a 6.5 C. Good rifles available. >> For me now << it would be easier to simply move over. TBD.

    Thanks again.

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